Lord Lawson has no influence, fails to listen, and is touchy and rude โ according to the Conservative peer leading Britainโs independent Committee on Climate Change.
But Lord Deben does not believe George Osborne, the chancellor, has fallen under the influence of Lord Lawson on the issue of climate change. He also described the failure of environmentalists to present a convincing case toย government.
โThe thing we have to accept about this government is that there is not a place for woolly good-heartedness,โ heย said.
โ[Osborne] does understand and does believe in climate change but he has a fundamental antagonism to the sort of loose thinking that means that people canโt addย up.โ
Pre-Rehearsedย Line
Lord Deben, speaking to Ed King of the RTCC News website, dismissed Lord Lawson of the Global Warming Policy Foundation and its academic advisor, Lord Ridley, as โdogmatistsโ who repeat a โpre-rehearsedย lineโ.
โTheir influence is less and less I am happy to say. The facts of science, life and measured views of people like Pope Francis are undermining them. They have become just rude instead of arguing and they are so touchy,โ heย argued.
The former Conservative environment secretary seemed particularly incensed by Lawsonโs attack on Pope Francis, who called on world leaders to address the crisis of climate change and prevent the world becoming a landfillย site.
List ofย Priorities
Lawson is clearly a man โwho hasnโt listened for yearsโ he argued, adding: โYou canโt possibly have confidence in a man who thinks he can improve the popeโsย ethics.โ
Deben questioned the latest claims by Lord Lawson, Lord Monckton, other climate deniers, and the coal industry that they were terribly worried about the plight of the worldโs poor, should they be denied access to cheap fossilย fuels.
This is in contrast to the stern warning from international charities, including Oxfam, Save the Children, Action Aid and Christian Aid, that climate change will have a profound, appalling impact on theย poorest.
โI have yet to see any element of Lord Lawsonโs budgets which suggested the poor were high on the list of priorities,โ he pointedย out.
โI noticed the proportion of national aid that went to the poorest nations when Lord Lawson was chancellor was significantly less than it now isโฆ and I noticed that he and his friends were opposed to the 0.7% (GDP) aidย target.โ
โThere is no evidence in past history of a great interest in the improvement of theย poor.โ
Greenย Groups
Lord Deben did not reserve his criticism for climate deniers, also pointing to the role of the environment NGOs in the debate โ in particular their failure to have an impact onย policy.
โMy own view is that green groups have not been community groups,โ he said. โThey have been collections of enthusiasts, mainly aimed at influencingย government.
โThey have done lots of good work but as for getting their members to actively deal with these things I just donโt think they have been good atย it.
โI keep on saying this. I donโt want any member of parliament to go to his weekly surgery without at least one person raising the issue of climate change โ and itโs not difficult to do thatโฆ but where are these much vauntedย numbers?โ
โI like them โ I have no problemโฆ but we never managed to win theย battle.โ
Photo: PRASEG viaย Flickr
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