Some Clean Coal Facts and Fiction on CNBC

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CNBC‘s Mark Haines asks: โ€œHow Realistic is Clean Coal,โ€ and Haines does a great job off the top by pointing out that his guest, Steve Miller of the American Coalition for Clean Coal Electricity (ACCCE), is funded by the coalย industry.

This type of disclosure is important, as it provides viewers with some valuable context when hearing what Mr. Miller has to say. As Miller states on the show, his organization ACCCE is fundedย by:

โ€œThe coal producers, railroads and other transporters, generatorsโ€ฆ we got them all, manufacturers as well.โ€

That’s the fact, and now for theย fiction.

Things get rather strange quickly when Haines asks Miller: โ€œHow far away are we from mass use of clean coalโ€ to which Millerย replies:

โ€œThe clean coal technologies for carbon capture and sequestration are probably 10 to 15 years away for widespread commercial use.โ€ (my emphasis)

Really? A 10 to 15 year outlook for CCS on a widespread commercialย use?

Where are those numbers coming from? The earliest possibility for deployment of CCS on a large commercial scale is not expected before 2030 and the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) does not expect CCS to be commercially viable until at leastย 2050.

Nor does Oil-giant Shell who โ€œdoesn’t foresee CCS being in widespread use untilย 2050.โ€

In fact, the head of one of the largest coal-to-electricity companies in the world, Jim Rogers, CEO of Duke Energy, recently statedย that:

โ€œCCS as a magical technology that solves the carbon problem for coal plants is oversoldโ€ฆI think there is a lot to learn, and it is going to take us a lot longer for us to figure it out than a lot of us thinkโ€.

So where is Miller coming up with these numbers? I’ve put the question to Mr. Miller and I will let you know what I hearย back.

Cross-posted on our affiliate site Coal isย Dirty.

UPDATE: Steve Gates at the American Coalition for Clean Coal Electricity got back to me and said that Mr. Miller got his numbers from a report done by the Coal Utilization Research Council and the Electric Power Research Institute called the CURCEPRI Technologyย Roadmap:

โ€œThe goal of the CURCEPRI Roadmap is to have, by 2025, new combustion and gasification based systems operating with carbon capture with an efficiency between 39% to 46% and a cost of electricity between 37 and 39 $/MW-hr. By 2025, the incremental cost to transport and sequester the CO2 is projected to be between 2 and 7 $/MW-hr.โ€

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Kevin is a contributor and strategic adviser to DeSmog. He runs the digital marketing agency Spake Media House. Named a โ€œGreen Heroโ€ by Rolling Stone Magazine and one of the โ€œTop 50 Tweetersโ€ on climate change and environment issues, Kevin has appeared in major news media outlets around the world for his work on digital campaigning. Kevin has been involved in the public policy arena in both the United States and Canada for more than a decade. For five years he was the managing editor of DeSmogBlog.com. In this role, Kevinโ€™s research into the โ€œclimate denial industryโ€ and the right-wing think tank networks was featured in news media articles around the world. He is most well known for his ground-breaking research into David and Charles Kochโ€™s massive financial investments in the Republican and tea partyย networks. Kevin is the first person to be designated a โ€œCertified Expertโ€ on theย political and community organizing platformย NationBuilder. Prior to DeSmog, Kevin worked in various political and government roles. He was Senior Advisor to the Minister of State for Multiculturalism and a Special Assistant to the Minister of State for Asia Pacific, Foreign Affairs for the Government of Canada. Kevin also worked in various roles in the British Columbia provincial government in the Office of the Premier and the Ministry of Health. In 2008 Kevin co-founded a groundbreaking new online election tool called Vote for Environment which was later nominated for a World Summit Award in recognition of the worldโ€™s best e-Content and innovative ICTย applications. Kevin moved to Washington, DC in 2010 where he worked for two years as the Director of Online Strategy for Greenpeace USA and has since returned to his hometown of Vancouver, Canada.

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