We recently had the opportunity to do an audio interview with John Stauber, founder of the non-profit Center for Media & Democracy (the group behind both SourceWatch and PRWatch).

You may know him as the author of Toxic Sludge is Good for You: Lies, Damn Lies, and the Public Relations Industry. Stauber is a man with a huge depth and breadth of knowledge about the PR industry and its trickery – and not just as it relates to climate change. As this interview reveals, these same tricks have been used (and are being used) over and over again by the tobacco lobby, the arms lobby, and other equally questionable causes.

The interview runs about 20 minutes. Give it a listen and learn more than you ever wanted to about the people paid to confuse the public about these vitally important issues. It’ll make you glad that the Center for Media and Democracy is out there doing their fine work!